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		<title>By: First Monday &#124; August 2010</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-20945</link>
		<dc:creator>First Monday &#124; August 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Facebook privacy settings: Who cares?</b><br />
<em>by danah boyd and Eszter Hargittai</em></p>
<p>Link to <a href="http://www.uic.edu/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/3086/2589" rel="nofollow">Facebook privacy settings: Who cares?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Overall, our data show that far from being nonchalant and unconcerned about privacy matters, the majority of young adult users of Facebook are engaged with managing their privacy settings on the site at least to some extent. The frequency with which they adjust their settings and their confidence in doing so may vary, but most report modifying their settings.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Assumptions that all users have a uniform approach to the site and how their accounts are set up are incorrect and may leave certain user populations especially vulnerable. If experience and skill matter — and it appears that they do — it is imperative that companies and policy makers consider how default privacy settings and changes in these settings affect populations differently.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Electronic Frontier Foundation</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-20541</link>
		<dc:creator>Electronic Frontier Foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/12/facebooks-new-privacy-changes-good-bad-and-ugly&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook&#039;s New Privacy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/about/staff/kevin-bankston&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kevin Bankston&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Five months after it first announced coming privacy changes this past summer, Facebook is finally rolling out a new set of revamped privacy settings for its 350 million users. The social networking site has rightly been criticized for its confusing privacy settings, most notably in a must-read report by the Canadian Privacy Commissioner issued in July and most recently by a Norwegian consumer protection agency. We&#039;re glad to see Facebook is attempting to respond to those privacy criticisms with these changes, which are going live this evening. Unfortunately, several of the claimed privacy &quot;improvements&quot; have created new and serious privacy problems for users of the popular social network service.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/12/facebooks-new-privacy-changes-good-bad-and-ugly" rel="nofollow">Facebook&#8217;s New Privacy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly</a> by <a href="http://www.eff.org/about/staff/kevin-bankston" rel="nofollow">Kevin Bankston</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Five months after it first announced coming privacy changes this past summer, Facebook is finally rolling out a new set of revamped privacy settings for its 350 million users. The social networking site has rightly been criticized for its confusing privacy settings, most notably in a must-read report by the Canadian Privacy Commissioner issued in July and most recently by a Norwegian consumer protection agency. We&#8217;re glad to see Facebook is attempting to respond to those privacy criticisms with these changes, which are going live this evening. Unfortunately, several of the claimed privacy &#8220;improvements&#8221; have created new and serious privacy problems for users of the popular social network service.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: New York Times</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-20369</link>
		<dc:creator>New York Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.nonformality.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/farewell.jpg" alt="Farewell Facebook" /></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/magazine/30FOB-medium-t.html" rel="nofollow">Facebook Exodus</a></strong> &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Things fall apart; the center cannot hold. Facebook, the online social grid, could not command loyalty forever. If you ask around, as I did, you’ll find quitters.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-15125</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at the Consumerist, Chris Walters nails it with his article &lt;a href=&quot;http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook&#039;s New Terms Of Service: &quot;We Can Do Anything We Want With Your Content. Forever.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at the Consumerist, Chris Walters nails it with his article <a href="http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever" rel="nofollow">Facebook&#8217;s New Terms Of Service: &#8220;We Can Do Anything We Want With Your Content. Forever.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-10164</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob Kramer-Duffield over at the <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/" rel="nofollow">Digital Natives Blog</a> explores the redesign of Facebook in <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/25/what-is-facebook-for/" rel="nofollow">«What is Facebook for?»</a>, well worth a read for anyone still considering or re-considering.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-8815</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.nonformality.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/pointlessapps.jpg&quot; title=&quot;Pointless Facebook Applications&quot; alt=&quot;Pointless Facebook Applications&quot; /&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9934515-36.html?tag=nefd.only&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Study reveals shocking truth: Most Facebook apps are silly, pointless.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9934515-36.html?tag=nefd.only" rel="nofollow">Study reveals shocking truth: Most Facebook apps are silly, pointless.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-8225</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sam, this is not so easy... And a problem many trainers face. So far, I have seen two strategies that tend to work.

One, to use the computer in the training setting in a way that it doesn&#039;t matter too much whether or not people continue to facebook around (I have even seen Facebook being used in training).

Second, to ban computers directly (by agreeing with everyone that it might help the training or workshop if people could concentrate on it), or indirectly (by blocking the wireless signal - nasty but I have seen that one - or by bringing in studies how badly the average person can actually multi-task...).

But all in all, this is difficult to say from afar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sam, this is not so easy&#8230; And a problem many trainers face. So far, I have seen two strategies that tend to work.</p>
<p>One, to use the computer in the training setting in a way that it doesn&#8217;t matter too much whether or not people continue to facebook around (I have even seen Facebook being used in training).</p>
<p>Second, to ban computers directly (by agreeing with everyone that it might help the training or workshop if people could concentrate on it), or indirectly (by blocking the wireless signal &#8211; nasty but I have seen that one &#8211; or by bringing in studies how badly the average person can actually multi-task&#8230;).</p>
<p>But all in all, this is difficult to say from afar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-8171</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a large organisation where training occurs often. More and more the trainers are frustrated as training participants continue to Facebook during training, thereby not paying attention to the trainers and training content imperative to their work. Any ideas how to overcome this and gain their attention back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a large organisation where training occurs often. More and more the trainers are frustrated as training participants continue to Facebook during training, thereby not paying attention to the trainers and training content imperative to their work. Any ideas how to overcome this and gain their attention back?</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-7766</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at <a href="http://in-the-middle-of-the-curve.blogspot.com/2008/03/facebook-experiment-continues-still.html" rel="nofollow">«In the Middle of the Curve»</a>, Wendy wonders:</p>
<blockquote><p>Have you started to find yourself dreading yet another email from Facebook announcing something that you have to log into Facebook to deal with?</p></blockquote>
<p>and observes</p>
<blockquote><p>Ultimately, Facebook, for me, is a solution looking for a problem&#8230; My attempts to use Facebook as a personal toolkit haven&#8217;t worked all that well.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wendy also points at a different take on Facebook by Ted Leonsis, owner of the Washington Capitals, who writes on his blog <a href="http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1990" rel="nofollow">«Ted&#8217;s Take»</a> that, for him, Facebook has turned away from being a community and transformed into a bazaar:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am burnt out, too, on Facebook&#8230; </p>
<p>I don?t want to know what you are reading anymore. I don?t want to be invited to another event&#8230;</p>
<p>And why is everyone&#8217;s relationship status ?complicated&#8221; anyway?</p>
<p>I go to Facebook less and less now. It needs to be cleaned up. It has gotten out of hand. It may be open and it may be a platform but it has stopped being about community for me. It is now a bazaar and it has a lot more noise than signal for me which is a shame.</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing how Facebook keeps people thinking and discussing? It has so much potential, and so many problems at the same time. This ain&#8217;t the end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-7104</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Sakis, I am going to join UFO and suggest, for the time being, we rename it to «United Facebook Observers».</p>
<p>For the better part of a year, I was using the platform and using it well and extensively. And yes, it was fun &#8211; reading that this friend is having a hangover today, or the other friend is studying for an exam. I loved that kind of quick status info, but no longer can I justify in front of myself &#8211; with all the developments pointing too clearly towards economical exploitation of the network &#8211; animating my friends to post such messages so I can read them. So I left.</p>
<p>Since I am pondering whether <i><a href="http://twitter.com" rel="nofollow">twitter</a></i> might be an alternative&#8230;</p>
<p>But anyhow, I don&#8217;t think it matters what you and I do so much for the development of Facebook. I have left with a very easy mind, because my attempts to utilise the platform for training have, so far, been fruitless &#8211; and taught me, once more, that &#8211; when the time is ripe &#8211; the young people I work with will show us what works and what not, and what link between their private lifes and their educational experiences they are willing to accept.</p>
<p>Until that day, I will work to explore (and maybe even develop) alternatives for networking and social platforms in education&#8230;</p>
<p>A nice weekend to you, too &#8211; and may your hope of (if not peace, let&#8217;s say at least) calmness for the Balkans become true!</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Sakis</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-7103</link>
		<dc:creator>Sakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion, happily, goes on. Here, there, even in my friend&#039;s house when we meet during the weekdays; in fact, only some of us meet, while the rest are so &quot;body,mind and soul&quot; connected to their &quot;research&quot; for global &quot;gimme five-make me famous&quot; friendshits (sorry)...And it&#039;s their attitude that makes me sound like a representative from the UFO Association (United Facebook Objectors :) )...&quot;Shut this down and let&#039;s go grab a beer&quot;!
Can&#039;t reveal more of the story, cause anyway, after that, it is silence...keyboard sounds prevail...
By the way, thank you for keeping it going. Besides what I said above,  the topic has been troubling my mind (in a good way) ever since I read the article and comments here. One lovely trainer colleague once said &quot;I open the television, I go to the toilet, I read a magazine, I am standing out of a toyshop, I talk with the right-next-to-me passenger in planes, I look for symbols in the streets e.t.c and always keep in mind how whatever happens in me and around me can be connected to my training delivery&quot;! Same goes for me the last month but the topic changes from training delivery to &quot;facebook&quot; and its implications or similar-content different-title platforms. To be honest, I am negative to its use and its obvious I guess. But at the same time, I am wondering how &quot;to enjoy it once &quot;we&quot; can&#039;t avoid it&quot;...How to use it so that it brings something to the work we do. How we can balance our inevitable &quot;loss&quot; with &quot;benefits&quot;. My ideas so far are not well processed and I am not sure there is a positive answer to the above questions.
But when answers are not coming from within, are coming from without. Reading a participant&#039;s application form for a forthcoming training course, I realized that this person is explicitly making use of this platform towards the achievement of a sort of networking and cooperation among a specific group of the society. Sorry for not making it more clear but I haven&#039;t asked the person if s/he would like to have this information published. But it keeps my interest high and I hope that during the TC I will get some sort of don&#039;t-be-so-negative-Sakis enlightenment!!!
Apologies for the length.
Have a nice weekend with a great hope that the Balkans will be back in peace by Monday the latest! (sounds a bit fun, but it&#039;s only a reaction to the inner pressure and doomsaying scenarios prevailing over the media) 

Sakis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion, happily, goes on. Here, there, even in my friend&#8217;s house when we meet during the weekdays; in fact, only some of us meet, while the rest are so &#8220;body,mind and soul&#8221; connected to their &#8220;research&#8221; for global &#8220;gimme five-make me famous&#8221; friendshits (sorry)&#8230;And it&#8217;s their attitude that makes me sound like a representative from the UFO Association (United Facebook Objectors :) )&#8230;&#8221;Shut this down and let&#8217;s go grab a beer&#8221;!<br />
Can&#8217;t reveal more of the story, cause anyway, after that, it is silence&#8230;keyboard sounds prevail&#8230;<br />
By the way, thank you for keeping it going. Besides what I said above,  the topic has been troubling my mind (in a good way) ever since I read the article and comments here. One lovely trainer colleague once said &#8220;I open the television, I go to the toilet, I read a magazine, I am standing out of a toyshop, I talk with the right-next-to-me passenger in planes, I look for symbols in the streets e.t.c and always keep in mind how whatever happens in me and around me can be connected to my training delivery&#8221;! Same goes for me the last month but the topic changes from training delivery to &#8220;facebook&#8221; and its implications or similar-content different-title platforms. To be honest, I am negative to its use and its obvious I guess. But at the same time, I am wondering how &#8220;to enjoy it once &#8220;we&#8221; can&#8217;t avoid it&#8221;&#8230;How to use it so that it brings something to the work we do. How we can balance our inevitable &#8220;loss&#8221; with &#8220;benefits&#8221;. My ideas so far are not well processed and I am not sure there is a positive answer to the above questions.<br />
But when answers are not coming from within, are coming from without. Reading a participant&#8217;s application form for a forthcoming training course, I realized that this person is explicitly making use of this platform towards the achievement of a sort of networking and cooperation among a specific group of the society. Sorry for not making it more clear but I haven&#8217;t asked the person if s/he would like to have this information published. But it keeps my interest high and I hope that during the TC I will get some sort of don&#8217;t-be-so-negative-Sakis enlightenment!!!<br />
Apologies for the length.<br />
Have a nice weekend with a great hope that the Balkans will be back in peace by Monday the latest! (sounds a bit fun, but it&#8217;s only a reaction to the inner pressure and doomsaying scenarios prevailing over the media) </p>
<p>Sakis</p>
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		<title>By: Nerijus</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-7061</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerijus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still keeping wondering:) I found another resource on the issue:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kidsonline/

Maybe the programme itself mostly represents parental-care-approach and individually-painful-cases but still were are young people who express themselves. 

Especially I recommended to read the interview with a youth researcher C.J.Pascoe who is specializing her researches in the field of youth culture and new digital media. I like her &#039;youth attitude&#039; 

Give a chance to Facebook!:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still keeping wondering:) I found another resource on the issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kidsonline/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kidsonline/</a></p>
<p>Maybe the programme itself mostly represents parental-care-approach and individually-painful-cases but still were are young people who express themselves. </p>
<p>Especially I recommended to read the interview with a youth researcher C.J.Pascoe who is specializing her researches in the field of youth culture and new digital media. I like her &#8216;youth attitude&#8217; </p>
<p>Give a chance to Facebook!:)</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-7014</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.misanthropebook.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Misanthropebook&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.misanthropebook.com/" rel="nofollow">Misanthropebook</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6977</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexguo/2234790640/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.nonformality.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/disconnected.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Disconnected&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexguo/2234790640/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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<p>[<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexguo/2234790640/" rel="nofollow">Source</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6976</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul thanks for stopping by! Hate to say it, but your (horror?) scenario of connectivity is happening today already! </p>
<p>Take <a href="http://twitter.com" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a> for example,</p>
<blockquote><p>«&#8230; a service for friends, family, and co–workers to communicate and stay connected.»</p></blockquote>
<p>You can send your updates via text messages, and receive an sms back with any updates from your friends. Up to 250 a day or something like that.</p>
<p>What do people write there, you ask? One example:</p>
<blockquote><p>«Why are the buses always five minutes too early when it is coldest? Next bus: 10 minutes. How not to start a day.»</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Paul Heming</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6967</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Heming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a great article and a great debate.

What are the effects of social networking with regards to the next generation? will they constantly keep logging into sites such as Facebook and Bebo just to see if something has changed, or someone has &#039;poked&#039; them?

I wonder whether in 5 years times, facebook or similar ventures will be integrated into all our daily applicances e.g. TV, radio, watches (heck it&#039;s on our phones already!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great article and a great debate.</p>
<p>What are the effects of social networking with regards to the next generation? will they constantly keep logging into sites such as Facebook and Bebo just to see if something has changed, or someone has &#8216;poked&#8217; them?</p>
<p>I wonder whether in 5 years times, facebook or similar ventures will be integrated into all our daily applicances e.g. TV, radio, watches (heck it&#8217;s on our phones already!)</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6780</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Downes starts out from McLuhan&#039;s &quot;the medium is the message&quot; to observe that &lt;a href=&quot;http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/02/meaning-as-medium.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the medium is the meaning.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Stephen argues, for example, there is no zone of shared meaning (unlike what millions of communication theories tell us, I might add). At best, he says, there is an intention of the sender.

Good food for thought, also for our training practice in which we often tell participants there is a zone of shared meaning. Is there?!



PS: Whatever intent Facebook had, it certainly arrived different where I stand... Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Downes starts out from McLuhan&#8217;s &#8220;the medium is the message&#8221; to observe that <a href="http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/02/meaning-as-medium.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the medium is the meaning.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Stephen argues, for example, there is no zone of shared meaning (unlike what millions of communication theories tell us, I might add). At best, he says, there is an intention of the sender.</p>
<p>Good food for thought, also for our training practice in which we often tell participants there is a zone of shared meaning. Is there?!</p>
<p>PS: Whatever intent Facebook had, it certainly arrived different where I stand&#8230; Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6773</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once in a while, I don&#8217;t have a cellphone for some time, simply because it annoys me that people expect you are reachable all the time.</p>
<p>But there is a huge difference: people who choose to talk about their love life on a public bus on the way to their parents know who is listening, and that someone is listening. They may have no idea about the consequences, and they may have no respect for the rights of others to travel on the same bus without hearing about last night&#8217;s boringness.</p>
<p>With Facebook, it&#8217;s different. You don&#8217;t know who is listening, and you don&#8217;t know who will have access to your records. It goes even further: Facebook reserves the right to collect information about you outside of Facebook. For what I know, one of them could be sitting on the bus, so that afterwards on Facebook they can offer me an advertisement link to the book I talked about on the phone. Thank you very much.</p>
<p>And that is where it goes too far, for me anyway. I am not confused by Facebook, I find it useless for myself and my work, and see no reason why I should accept any intrusion from their side for no return at all.</p>
<p>While the saving of communication data in relation to cellphones and emails is an intrusion of privacy and a violation of individual civil rights as well, the context is a different one.</p>
<p>In some European countries, including the one where I live, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_Privacy_and_Electronic_Communications" rel="nofollow">«EU Directive on Privacy and Electronic Communications»</a> has been heavily abused.</p>
<p>Its original intention to safeguard the «right to privacy in the electronic communication sector» has been ridiculed &#8211; in Germany all data is now stored for six months, just in case.</p>
<p>Because I cannot choose to opt out of email and telephone usage (different to Facebook, which I do not need), I have become politically active about these issues, already a long time ago.</p>
<p>Not that it has changed much&#8230;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing how McLuhans classic essays from more than 30 years back still make people think today? Another thought-provoking book from recent years: «Mediated: How the Media Shape Your World» by Thomas de Zengotita.</p>
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		<title>By: Nerijus</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6770</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerijus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continued thinking on the matter and came with more questions and doubts. In line with leaving Facebook when we should also throw away our cell phones, not use emailing and even bus companies if we want to visit our parents. they make profit out of our relationships.

yes, there is still a difference as we keep anonymous when using services. but is it so? being on the bus and talking via phone about our love relations. storing our data?

or can we still be conscious when using Facebook and not signing any playful application they offer? how much will they know about me when? and what from that I would like to hide? and why?

and why we strive for youth researches with an aim to understand young people better? maybe in order to provide better services! again, still it remains anonymous. But don&#039;t we make profit out of what we get to know?

I will keep using Facebook and see what it will bring me. new media makes us always confused.

lately, I read a very good book by M. McLuhan &quot;Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man&quot;. I strongly recommend it! it made me reflect a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continued thinking on the matter and came with more questions and doubts. In line with leaving Facebook when we should also throw away our cell phones, not use emailing and even bus companies if we want to visit our parents. they make profit out of our relationships.</p>
<p>yes, there is still a difference as we keep anonymous when using services. but is it so? being on the bus and talking via phone about our love relations. storing our data?</p>
<p>or can we still be conscious when using Facebook and not signing any playful application they offer? how much will they know about me when? and what from that I would like to hide? and why?</p>
<p>and why we strive for youth researches with an aim to understand young people better? maybe in order to provide better services! again, still it remains anonymous. But don&#8217;t we make profit out of what we get to know?</p>
<p>I will keep using Facebook and see what it will bring me. new media makes us always confused.</p>
<p>lately, I read a very good book by M. McLuhan &#8220;Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man&#8221;. I strongly recommend it! it made me reflect a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Karsten</title>
		<link>http://www.nonformality.org/2008/01/so-long-facebook/#comment-6768</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, there was <a href="http://bloggasm.com/international-delete-your-myspace-account-day-is-here" rel="nofollow">«International Delete Your Myspace Account Day.»</a></p>
<p>Sometime, there will be an «International Delete Your Facebook Account Day», too.</p>
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